The
Mother Answers On Dreams - II
In
order to remember something, you must first of all
be conscious of it.
I dreamt of an ocean flowing and flowing silently.
It gave me a great joy. I could feel it like a physical
thing.
It
is almost an experiencemore than a dream.
There are places one goes to periodically in dreams.
One can continue with the same dream, sometimes after
a lapse of several months. There are also dreams of
warning, which often repeat the same thing so as to
compel you to concentrate your attention on it.
I
saw X recently. Was it the real person?
What
is a person? When you are in a body you always see
the body and think it is the person. But in this body
there is now the whole being, now part of the being,
with the rest somewhere else. Sometimes it is one
activity of the being that comes forward, sometimes
another. Because you have a body which you continue
to see, you think that the being you see is always
the same, but that is not true. The centre of the
being, the psychic being, rarely takes on the appearance
of the manifested being. The psychic being has passed
through innumerable bodies and even if it did keep
an imprint of all these bodies, the result would be
unrecognisable, wouldn't it? Most often it is a thought
of the person who has gone which assumes a form, either
in your atmosphere or in your own thought. So a sort
of emanation comes. It is there, and depending on
your own condition you see it more or less clearly.
But the form you give it is your own creation; it
conforms to this person's physical form as you know
it. I don't say this is an absolute rule, but nine
times out of ten it is like that.
And
I can give you a very clear example of this. When
you see someone you did not see at the time of his
death, you don't see the form he had at that time
but the form he had the last time you saw him. Therefore
you give the form yourself. I don't say this is something
absolute. It may happen differently, but that is so
rare that it is better not to speak of it. Only one
person in a million can be objective enough not to
add anything to his vision. So it is better not to
speak about it, except as an ideal to aspire for.
In
everything you see, in sleep as well as in visions
in the waking state, there are always a considerable
number of subjective details. If you do not see the
person as he was when you saw him last, the difference
always comes from your own thought. If you think that
the person must be older, you will see him looking
older; if you think that he must look ill, you will
see him looking ill, and so on. An absolutely objective
vision, which conforms wholly to the reality, is very
rare. The dream you mentioned simply means that you
have kept a tender, affectionate relationship with
her, and so one part of her being has remained close
to you and for some reason you became aware of it
in your dream.
Since
I left my family, I dream of them regularly at least
once a week.
This
comes from the subconscious.
As I told you, I have studied this subject of dreams
in great depth. Unless you concentrate in a very special
way you always dream of things you have experienced
or felt or been aware of some time before; but you
don't dream of the things that belong to your present
life. You may think of them, you may remember them,
but you don't dream of them. Except in a few very
rare instances, a dream is the awakening of something
recorded in the subconscious. This recording is made
gradually; some kind of assimilation is needed before
the thing can manifest of itself, and this assimilation
may take time. You dream of thingsand peoplethat
you knew a very long time ago; when a very long time
has elapsed, it is usually for some special reason.
Some things come back at regular intervals and you
have a kind of cycle of movements in your dream. If
you can find a point at which things that are present
have struck you at a previous time in your life, then
you can see them both at the same time.
Very
few dreams have a meaning, an instructive value, but
all dreams can show you what your present state of
consciousness is and how things are combined in the
subconscious, what the terrestrial influences are,
what traces they leave and how they are combined.
This is a very interesting subject of study.
In
dreams one is usually passive and one doesn't react
as one does in ordinary life. Why?
Not
always. I have known many people who were far more
active in their dreams than in their waking life and
who would do things which they would have been incapable
of doing in their waking life. For example, I have
known people who used to be petrified with fear in
their waking life but would express indomitable courage
and acomplish truly heroic deeds in their dreams.
Sometimes too, if you dream of something unpleasant,
instead of having a reaction, you say, "All this
is only a dream, it is not true, it is impossible,"
etc., and in this way the dream assumes another form.
Of course, you must be aware that you are dreaming
for this to happen. It is a tremendous field of observationthere
is no end to the discoveries you can make in your
dreams. But there is one important point: you must
not go to sleep when you are very tired, for if you
do, you fall into a sort of unconsciousness in which
dreams do whatever they like with you, and you have
no reaction. Just as I said that you should not eat
without having taken rest, I would advise everyone
to rest before going to sleep. And for that, you must
know how to rest.
Now
I will tell you a very recent dream of mine which
I had just a few days ago. It wasn't exactly a dream,
it was very conscious. (I am not one of those people
who dream of things that occurred a very long time
ago; I know what to do to avoid that.) I went to a
place in the vital world where I knew that many of
our boys go to restat least, in their physical
sleep, they look as if they are resting. But since
they don't really know how to rest, instead of accumulating
energy, they lose it. Some of them lose a tremendous
amount of energy: instead of recovering their energy,
they waste it. So I went there and saw many rows in
which there were things that looked like beds but
weren't really beds. I walked about in the room and
saw them resting, trying to rest, but since they didn't
know how to do it, they couldn't. They were all more
or less sprawled out, their eyes were openthey
weren't asleep, it wasn't sleep, it was a state of
rest; the vital wasn't active but in a state of semi-awareness.
I got them to understand that I could show them how
to rest in such a way as to recover their energy instead
of wasting it. And would you believe it, only one
of them was willing to learn! The others said, "No,
we are quite all right as we are, we don't want to
learn anything else!"
When
we see you in dream, where do we see you? Is it always
the same place?
There
are many different places, many. It may be in the
subtle physical, for all of you live in my physical
atmosphere and so it is in the subtle physical that
you see me most often. And there you feel that what
you see is almost material, but with a slight distortion.
Because it is the subtle physical, you can quite easily
remember what you have seen. Very often, in the middle
of the night, I take care of you (I don't want to
boast about it!) and I remember many things that are
of some importanceI don't remember everything
because it is not worth burdening the memory with
a lot of useless things. And I have noticed that several
of you are able to remember, but the thing takes place
in your consciousness with a slight distortionit
wasn't exactly the same.
Some
people can see me vitally, some people can see me
psychically (this is quite rare), some people can
see me mentally and some people can see me in the
subconscious and, in certain conditions, in the unconscious;
but that is rare.
Others may have a revelation about me and see me as
I am, but not many can do that.
What
is the way to take rest before going to sleep?
There
are many methods, but I will give you one. First,
your body must be comfortable, on a bed, in an easy-chairanywhere
so long as it is comfortable. Then you learn how to
relax your nerves one after the other, until you achieve
complete relaxation. You should relax all your nervesyou
can relax them all together, but perhaps it is easier
to relax them one after the other, and this becomes
very interesting. And when that is done, you must
make your brain quiet and silent and at the same time
keep your body like a rag on the bed. You must make
the brain so still and absolutely quiet that it is
not aware of itself. And then, don't try to
sleep, but pass very gently from this state into sleep
without being aware of it. When you wake up the next
morning you will be full of energy. But if you go
to bed very tired and without even trying to relax,
to calm down, you will fall into a heavy, dull and
unconscious sleep and the vital will lose all its
energy. Perhaps this won't have any immediate effect,
but it is better to try it than to plunge into sleep
when you are very tired.
If
you relax very gently before going to sleep, you will
feel great pleasure in going to sleep. If you manage
to relax the nerves, even of only one arm or leg,
you will see how pleasant it is. If you go to sleep
with your nerves tense, you will have a very restless
sleep and change position very often during the night.
That kind of rest is no good.
I
have noticed that if I go to sleep on one side, I
wake up on the other. Is it always like that?
No,
not necessarily. There is no rule. If you think it
is like that, it will be like that!
I have noticed that if an interesting
dream wakes me up, I can go back to sleep and continue
the same dream.
Yes, this can be done and it means that you are partially
conscious of your night activities.
I used to know someone who went
on having the same dream all the time, until he could
no longer distinguish between dream and reality.
It
sometimes happens that when you go out of your body,
when you exteriorise yourself during sleep and are
conscious in the vital world, you can live a vital
life that is just as conscious as the physical life.
I have known peoplenot many have this capacity
of going out of their bodybut I have known people
who had such a strong interest in their experiences
in the vital world that in the end they refused to
return to their body, they went on sleeping almost
indefinitely.
If
you are conscious and self-controlled in the vital
world and have a certain power there, the things that
happen are wonderful, infinitely more varied and magnificent
than in the physical world. It is true that some regions
in the vital world are wonderful.
Now
I will tell you how this happens. When you are very
tired and in need of rest and if you know how to exteriorise
yourself, if you go out of your body and enter consciously
into the vital world, there are regions there, in
the vital world, which are like a marvellous virgin
forest, with all the splendour of a rich and harmonious
vegetation, and beautiful, mirror-like pools. And
the atmosphere is filled with the living vitality
of plants, with every shade of green reflected in
the water... And there you feel so much life, so much
beauty, so much richness and plenitude that you wake
up full of energy. And all this is so objective! I
have been able to take people there, without telling
them anything at all about how it would be, and they
were able to describe the place exactly as I can myself,
and they had exactly the same experience. They were
absolutely exhausted before going to sleep and they
woke up with an absolutely marvellous feeling of plenitude,
of force and energy. They had stayed there only a
few minutes.
There
are regions like thatnot many, but they exist.
On the other hand, there are many unpleasant places
in the vital world and it is better not to go there.
Leaving aside those who are so attached, so rivetted
to their bodies that they don't even want to leave
them, those who can easily learn to go out of their
bodies ought to do so with great care. I haven't been
able to teach this to many people, for that would
mean exposing them, sometimes without protectionwhen
they do it alone, without my presenceto experiences
which can be extremely harmful to them.
The
vital world is a world of extremes. If, for example,
you eat a bunch of grapes in the vital world, you
can go for thirty-six hours without feeling hungryfully
nourished. But you can meet with certain things, enter
certain places that drain all your energy in a trice,
and sometimes leave you with illnesses and after-effects
that belong to the vital world.
I
used to know a woman who was absolutely wonderful
from the occult point of view. She was absolutely
conscious of herself, of all the regions of her being;
she could go from one region to anotherin short,
she was marvellous. Well, she had an accident in the
vital world. She was fighting some beings from the
vital world in order to save someone whom she was
very fond of, and she got a blow on the eye. And when
I met her, she had lost an eye. Many people have these
accidents in the vital world, and they keep traces
of these accidents for hours after they wake up. That
is why you can't tell just anyone, "Learn to
go out of your body", for there are many requirements
before you can do it safely. If you have any affinities
with the forces of falsehood and violence, it is better
to stay in your physical body.
1
February 1951
- The Mother
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