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The
Mother Answers—Fear of Death - III
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"The
hour of death seems therefore to be inexorably fixed, except
for a very few individuals who possess powers that the human
race in general does not command.''
This
is exactly what I have just explained. It is a very few who
are capable of bringing down another determinism into the
physical determinism. These can change the hour of death.
This is exactly what I have just been explaining at full length.
The power lies in bringing down a higher consciousness into
the material consciousness, and with the higher consciousness
bringing down a higher determinism which changes the material
determinism. And not many have that power. I have said a very
few do. In fact it is a very, very few.
The last method, you have said, is
to enter the domain of death deliberately and consciously
while one is still alive...
Yes.
What
is the difference between entering consciously into death
and consciously going out of one's body? Many people can
go out of their body, can't they?
Yes, but they don't all go into the world of death.
Is it the same method as for going
out of one's body?
Yes,
but that is only the beginning. One begins by learning how
to go out of one's body. Many people, when they sleep, go
out of their body. They do it more or less consciously the
majority unconsciously, but still there are a few who do it
consciously. They go out of their body but remain in the physical
domain. At the most they go into some mental region but they
do not go into the domain of death.
There are some who go there, but then, for the process to
be complete... you must know that when one goes out of one's
body, one remains tied to the body by a certain number of
links—what shall I call them? They may be vital links,
links of the mind, psychic links—when one goes out, it
can be all kinds of things which go out of the body. Usually
what goes out is something quite subtle, like the mind or
the higher vital, and much remains in the body, enough for
the body not to enter into trance. Among sleepers some even
move about often in their sleep: there is one part of their
being which is exteriorised but the most material part of
their vital being is in the body. And as long as that is there,
it is altogether in the domain of life. First of all, it is
not easy to detach from the body exactly that part which leaves
it at the moment of death. This asks for a very rigorous discipline
practised for a very long time. There is a process of exteriorisation
to follow in order to succeed in making all the parts which
leave at death go out; and in this case the body enters into
a cataleptic state. It goes into the state in which it is
found when one dies. It even becomes very rapidly completely
rigid. Well, this is something one must learn to do, and it
is not very easy; and if one wants to do it quite completely,
somebody must always be there to watch the body so that nothing
may happen. One can never do it all alone. Somebody must be
there to guard the body.
But even if one does all that, that is not quite the experience
I am speaking about. The experience I am speaking about is
still much more difficult. Once one has gone out like that
and left his body in a cataleptic state, one cuts the links.
So, one is really dead; that is, the heart beats no longer.
But as there is still "the life of the form'', and it
is not through an accident that one has left, as it is by
an act of will with knowledge and power, one can force one's
way back, re-establish the connection and come back forcibly
into one's body. It is not a comfortable business the whole
thing is difficult. Like that, on paper it seems to be nothing
at all. But it is not easy.
You
have said here: "It is within the reach of so few.''
So this means there are people who have done it. Hence they
have attained immortality, but so far...
Immortality!
No, I have not said that this was immortality. I have said
that they got rid of all fear of death. That is quite a different
thing.
But
they enter the domain of death, don't they?
Yes,
but at that moment the body is in a good condition.
The body is in good order and one can find it again it is
not a question of remaining outside for long like that!
But they have had the experience,
so when they really die they try once again the same thing?
If
their body is in good condition. But usually, when one dies
something has happened to the body, you know. There is something
seriously out of order in the body. But still, it is not yet
certain that having gone out of one's body, one cannot keep
the ability to put what is disturbed back into order unless
it is something very serious like a stab in the heart or when
the head's cut off! That is grave enough but still if the
body remains intact, if it is only a disequilibrium, it can
be re-established.
Mother,
what happens if the links are broken?
If
the links are broken?—One dies.
But
the part that has gone out of the body?
That,
if it is conscious, remains absolutely conscious. It has its
own independent life, it remains absolutely conscious. Cut
off or not, that changes nothing in its life. It does not
give it more consciousness, does not take away any from it—the
consciousness it has, the knowledge it has, the power it has,
these it keeps. One who is able to do this does not depend
upon the body. That is, in order to be conscious, one does
not depend at all—at all—upon the body. He has an
altogether independent consciousness.
10 March 1954
- The Mother
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